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Bad Santa 2
Release Date:
23rd November 2016
87 min
MPAA Rating:
Mark Waters
Johnny Rosenthal, Shauna Cross
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Fueled by cheap whiskey, greed and hatred, Willie Soke (Billy Bob Thornton) teams up with his angry little sidekick, Marcus, to knock off a Chicago charity on Christmas Eve. Along for the ride is chubby and cheery Thurman Merman, a 250-pound ray of sunshine who brings out Willie's sliver of humanity. Mommy issues arise when the pair are joined by Willie's horror story of a mother, Sunny Soke, who raises the bar for the gang's ambitions, while somehow lowering the standards of criminal behavior.


Rotten Tomatoes Critics - Certified Fresh 24%
Rotten Tomatoes Audience 44%
IMDb Rating 5.7


Billy Bob Thornton as Willie Soke
Brett Kelly as Thurman Merman
Christina Hendricks as Diane Hastings
Kathy Bates as Sunny Soke
Tony Cox as Marcus Skidmore

Movie Reviews

Reviewed by DarkVulcan29 ([email protected]) 8th December, 2016

Bad Santa 2 does what it sets out.

For those who despised this film, I respect your opinion and please don't hate me. Because I found this film entertaining, would I consider this a great film heck no, but would I consider it to be a bad film, certainly not. Bad Santa 2 is a film to me to watch with your friends and have a big laugh. Years after the events of the first Bad Santa(2003), down on his luck Willie(Billy Bob Thornton) is pulled back for another heist by his former partner Marcus(Tony Cox) and his estranged mother(Kathy Bates). Willie has got nothing else going for him, except for Thurman(Brett Kelly) who is now grown, but acts like a lost child. And it's during the time of Christmas, so Willie has to put on the Santa outfit again. I saw very little of the first Bad Santa, and probably should have watch all of it before watching the sequel. Billy Bob Thornton, Tony Cox, and Kathy Bates all have funny chemistry. They are all despicable people, but that is what makes them funny. Thornton is a drunk foul mouth character, but you know there is a good person hiding in there somewhere. Christina Hendricks is also amusing here, she and Thornton have funny scenes. The movie does have a lot of raunchy jokes, but I laughed cause the deliver was perfect. My only real problem here is the Thurman character played by Brett Kelly. They could have done so much more with that character, instead the writers took the lazy way out with him. But all in all an entertaining film, you go in expecting nothing more, nothing less.

Reviewed by maurice yacowar 30th November, 2016

Rage and Politica Incorrectness are celebrated in a comic heist.

Bad Santa 2 is as funny, raunchy, vulgar and Politically Incorrect as the first Bad Santa was. Translation: Add it to your list of Christmas season perennials, with Billy Bob Thornton as the bracing antidote to all that Jimmy Stewart and Bing Crosby crap. The films' relentless profanity is a salutary balance to the smarmy sweets of the Yule. Their ambition, their driving motive, is to be as Politically Incorrect as possible. In art that's funny. In life, as we will see, that's dangerous. The basic plot is repeated: the drunken obscene department store Santa connives with his black dwarf elf friend to pull off a major heist. Again the grown white man needs the black dwarf to help pull off the heist. Again the friend tries to rob and kill him. This time the department store is replaced by a large-scale charity, which broadens the satire from the season's commercialism to its ostensible social concern. The one major addition — Kathy Bates as Willie's violent, vicious, conniving, tattooed mother— adds another dimension to the film's radical rejection of knee jerk sentimentality. This mother not only betrays but robs and shoots her son. In their first meeting mummy responds to sonny's slugging her with "You still hit like your ... father." It's not affection that runs like blood — or, for that matter, bile — in this family. The mother is so much like her son she's named Sunny — in dramatic antithesis to her disposition. In exulting in the profane these films evoke the tradition of the Saturnalia, the annual festival in which the medieval Christian church allowed its language and rites to be blasphemously parodied. The fathers intuited the need for their congregants to let off steam, briefly to exercise -- and exorcise -- what the rest of the year they had to suppress. In Shakespeare, Falstaff is the exultant Saturnalian opposite to the heroisms of Hotspur and Hal. Here when Willie seems to soften at hearing Thurman's soprano carol, he's briefly allowing the release of conventional sentiment and piety into his world of lust, greed, irreverence and rage. That's the Saturnalian in reverse. It's just a moment, though, not enough to ruffle the while film's driving spirit of anger and indecorum. The film's entire human landscape is vile. The handsome couple running the huge charity is stripped of all virtue. The thief husband has abandoned his marriage for sex with his assistant. His wife is no innocent victim. She embraces Willie's rough and dirty sex at every opportunity, with the same proviso: "This was a one-time thing. It never happened." The charity's obese sexpot replays her boss's hypocrisy. She leads on the black dwarf Marcus's courtship for an expensive lobster and champagne dinner then dumps him — finally admitting it's because of his "height." In leading him on she pretends to be liberal and colour/height blind, but in the clutch she won't give him the chance to prove himself adequate. However repulsive, the full-size and white privileged Willie, of course, wins more sexual service than he can shake his stick at. in addition to the socialite, he scores Marcus's rejector and the drink server at the wealthy soiree his mother is burgling. Now, a funny — well, if a national catastrophe with global destructive implications can be considered in any sense "funny" — thing happened between the two Bad Santa films. I remind the reader of the election of Donald J. Trump to be America's next (and quite possibly last) president. That election makes these Santa films profoundly symptomatic of their society. The frustration and rage that Willie articulates in both films inspired Trump's supporters to buy into his promises of economic and social reform, despite his clear record of the very elitism, corruption, lying and criminal self-service that he promised to oppose. Art can play out the tensions and themes of real life. But here's the difference. The film ends and releases you back into the real world. There's no such release from reality. We need films, among the other arts, to expose the problems in our real lives and to mobilize the humanity and values to address them. When the forces behind the exhilarating release of black comedy come together as a political force in real life, the black intensifies and the comedy evaporates. The film ends with Willie tormenting the helpless dwarf by an adolescent sexual humiliation. What the new presidency threatens its minorities and marginalized is far more serious.

Reviewed by Special-K88 24th November, 2016

Bad Decision

Strained black comedy sequel reunites—for no reason that really makes any sense—Willie, the world's most vile Santa and his feisty, foulmouthed dwarf sidekick Marcus for yet another score, this time at a Chicago charity event on Christmas Eve. That darn kid returns, only this time he's a man (sort of), and as what is supposed to be an added bonus: Willie's equally crass mother (Bates, though even she is helpless against this flimsy material). Unnecessary, uninspired, and untimely follow-up doesn't have much of a plot to keep it afloat, playing mostly as an exercise in unfunny jokes, profane dialogue, and bodily fluids. Forced and forgettable, worth a few fleeting chuckles thanks to a well-chosen cast that elevates it as much as they possibly can. **

Reviewed by gojira-81503 23rd November, 2016

Fails to Improve upon the Oriignal

Bad Santa 2 is a strange movie. On one hand the movie has some amazing one-liners from Billy Bob Thornton, as he reprises his role as Willie from the first film. On the other hand, the film is many years late and has a slew of disappointingly shallow side characters thrown into the mix. The film begins with Willie being lured into going to Chicago by Tony Cox's character Marcus. Essentially, they are going to Chicago to rip off a charity organization. This premise on paper sounds fun, but the execution is sloppy. When Willie gets to Chicago he reunites with his Mother played by Kathy Bates. She calls Willie *beep* constantly throughout the movie, as if the film is trying to force-feed the idea that she is the reason Willie is such a bad man. The problem here is that no one wanted a character in this movie to combat with side Willie and there are multiple scenes in this film where I felt her and Willie were battling for screen time with the latter being the obvious winner. Her character felt very forced, and it honestly started to derail the film as it endured. Another returning character, Thurman Murman, played by Brett Kelley, is funny at times, but once again it was forced. His character just isn't as funny as he was in the original 2003 hit, as he has aged and seeing this character aged does not just suddenly make it funny. The innocence of him as a child is what made his character so funny in the first movie, and now it just feels annoying because the audience is left saying "grow up already." While his character would have been funny as a little cameo, it just is not funny having him through the duration of the film. The reason the first Bad Santa worked so well is because the film contrasted pure arrogance and wrath with innocence which made for some truly awkward scenarios to play out. This film tries really hard to be way too raunchy and over-the-top that it misses the point entirely. The side characters in this film include the stereotypical cheating husband boss, nerdy security henchman, and a woman who is more interested in old men than the typical good looking guy. These characters are extremely overacted and they cannot hold a candle to John Ritter and Bernie Mac in the original Bad Santa. It is as if the film feels the need to be raunchier and more vulgar to keep up with the current trend of comedy, but Bad Santadid not need to up this factor so much, it just needed funny scenarios involving Willie. That being said, there are moments in this film that work really well, and all of them involve Willie. Billy Bob Thornton is on his A-game here and the movie would be a total trash-bag if it wasn't for his saving performance. The scene involving him battle another "jolly" Santa Clause was perfectly played out and had the audience laughing out loud multiple times. It's just too bad that the movie focuses too much on the exaggerated side characters and Willie's mother in particular. Overall, Bad Santa 2 does not live up to the first one by any means. It has annoying side characters, a lack of focus, and it even goes as far as trying to implement a twist at the end that is not earned at all. I honestly wish rather than a full-fledged sequel we got some 10 minute shorts of "funny situations" involving Willie. It would be much funnier than this full-fledged movie without overstaying its welcome with so many unwanted characters. If you enjoyed the original Bad Santa, then you will definitely laugh in some cases, but you will leave the theater rolling your eyes nonetheless. Final Score: 2/5

Reviewed by Elliot D. George 23rd November, 2016

★★ - unnecessary

Bad Santa 2 sees drunk and angry Willie rejoining his old partner Marcus in order to rob a charity in Chicago. The catch this time is that they'll be led by none other than Willie's mother, who taught him all the tricks of the trade from an early age. I remember dreading seeing the first one back in 2003 and then being pleasantly surprised, with its seemingly uncontrollable aggression and foulness I couldn't help but laugh - one of those 'guilty pleasure' films. 13 years later, my expectations were a little higher, and foolishly so. Half the comedies released these days are that kind of "are we allowed to say/do this?!" type, which gets pretty tiresome pretty quickly. Bad Santa 2 is no exception. Waters isn't the best director in the world, and there just seems to have been no fun while making this movie. Thornton has become a solid and respected actor in the last decade - this movie shows none of that. His lack of energy makes him feel more apathetic than deadpan. Cox is the same as usual, but the addition of Bates to the cast adds a little extra quality. The real star is Kelly, who chubbed up for the role, getting most of the funny lines with his blissful ignorance and childish naivety. Hendricks adds very little worth mentioning (basically just there for the cleavage), but I was slightly amused/disappointed by Spencer's presence - she should know better! So it's not terrible, but it's far from what it should be. A few good laughs, but Bad Santa isn't a franchise we needed to see more of, and no one would've missed this movie had it not been made. 2/5